Some arguments 2
“I do experience happiness through the senses.” Only experience is experienced through the senses, happiness is in the heart/soul and is not felt through the senses. Can you smell, taste, hear, see or touch happiness. No, you can only feel it through the heart and feeling it through the heart is non physical.
Our internal feeling of happiness are invariably tied to external objects and perception of external objects is through senses and therefore the belief that “I do experience happiness through the senses.”
3 Happiness is the creation of mind itself” Any happiness created in the mind/ego is a temporary happiness. True happiness is in the heart/soul. the heart that really knows what unconditional love is.
What is difference between heart and mind? Please refer to post no 37. True happiness is always of infinite magnitude. It cannot be sustained by material heart (or mind).
4 You quoted “Concept on friendships are formed because you feel they are useful” This is not what true friendships are based on, this is the practice of conditional love. Does God love us conditionally? I think not. We are to love one another unconditionally because we are all children of God ….we were all made in his likeness…..we are all perfect
Are we replete with infinite happiness like God? Are we all knowing like God? Are we omnipotent? Because we live for our own happiness, we develop friendship with others so that we are happy. That is the usefulness I am talking about.
5 Your quote “No one loves anyone else for else’s happiness, but to fetch happiness to ones own soul” Does it not feel good to you to make someone else happy…when I love someone I do not expect it to make me happy in return and I don’t expect them to love me in return…I love them because they are nothing less than lovable because God made us all and all are lovable.
True LOVE has ability to relieve you from all sorts of sufferings. It brings you infinite happiness. And then if don’t object the statement that “To simplify further, an individual remains in certain state of mind till it finds itself comfortable with that state and tries to change the state if the prevailing conditions no more yield any satisfaction to it and if the individual is forced to continue in the same state, in which it is not comfortable, it faces the situation with some unpleasant feelings like tension, sorrow, grudge, anxiety and so on.” How can you claim that you love someone? LOVE is to make others happy while we are after our own happiness.
Welcome ! I have already stated that my views are given in the end part of the point. Precisely, for point 1 my view is :
Are we replete with infinite happiness like God? Are we all knowing like God? Are we omnipotent? Because we live for our own happiness, we develop friendship with others so that we are happy. That is the usefulness I am talking about.
for point 2 my view is:
rue LOVE has ability to relieve you from all sorts of sufferings. It brings you infinite happiness. And then if don’t object the statement that “To simplify further, an individual remains in certain state of mind till it finds itself comfortable with that state and tries to change the state if the prevailing conditions no more yield any satisfaction to it and if the individual is forced to continue in the same state, in which it is not comfortable, it faces the situation with some unpleasant feelings like tension, sorrow, grudge, anxiety and so on.” How can you claim that you love someone? LOVE is to make others happy while we are after our own happiness.
For point 3:
I said love has capability to remove all the sufferings. I did not say that one should love overcome the sufferings. Real love is always without any reason.
Hello,
The post refers to “You” and “Your”. May I ask to whom this blog is addressed to.?
1. Clarification to “we were all made in his likeness…..we are all perfect”
Is that so. Then dont we see imbalancess, financially, Physically, mentally and so on and so forth. If evryone is perfect, then the concept of Karma clashes.
2. “when I love someone I do not expect it to make me happy in return and I don’t expect them to love me in return”
Which means that you heart/soul has no role in the relationship of love. The only happiness that your heart should experience is love of god. Moreover you have also stated that god is everywhere, which means when you love someone, you love god and so you should experience happiness.
3. “True LOVE has ability to relieve you from all sorts of sufferings.”
Which means that when you have sufferings, you tend towards loving everyone, with the hope that it would relieve of your sufferings. ISnt this selfishness.
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Welcome ! I must clarify that the posts that I am writing here are my OWN , written by ME. And that subject matter is NEW for the people who are at eblogs. You should go by the contents. See if the matter is of any use to you, if not it might be useful to someone else.
Second thing, this is a reciprocating conversation in which some points are discussed. If you wish to know my views, you should see the concluding remarks in the end part of each point.
Hello,
As I dont see any of my observations as clarifications in your post I, would request you to respond each of querries/observations.
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